Toronto Electric Riders Association Message Board › E-bike Laws › Rumors about e-bikes a licensing in the new year
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The other day was the second time I heard someone trying to say that in the new year the province of Ontario will be updating the laws for e-bikes, stating that they will require an m1 license to operate one.
This sounds like total garbage to me but wanted to see if there was anything genuine out there. Anyone else hear or read this? |
| lOCk | |
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Ya know ya can track these buggers... as soon as anybuddy pops their head up in the provincial legislature and says anything about ebikes? Here's a link that searches Hansards for anytime somebuddy mentions the word "bicycle":
http://www.ontla.on.c... and up pops: http://hansardindex.o... From November 25th... two weeks ago... PRIVATE MEMBERS' Ya can read the rest of the Honourable Members speech yerself... She goes on and on about ATVs and snowmobiles, but then she says this: There are also new products coming to market that need consideration. I was pleased to receive an endorsement from the Insurance Bureau of Canada. As they point out, "Consumers have more choice about motorized transportation, and as new products are introduced, it's important that we consider the safety and training implications." It was recently brought to my attention that motorized bicycles are being advertised for sale on the Danforth here in Toronto with the following inducement in the store window: "No Insurance, No Licence, No Plate. Just Drive." We need to analyze these products from the safety perspective. Watt the Honourable Member fails to note is that most of the cycling injuries are caused by large, heavy motorized vehicles driven by amateurs... Tks LocK Edited by lOCk on Dec 8, 2010 1:05 PM |
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Gotcha, so basically they are looking into ways they can license and regulate. That will go no where haha, awesome stuff.
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| lOCk | |
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Now's the time to start attacking this person folks...
![]() Dr. Jaczek received her medical degree and Masters of Health Science from the University of Toronto and later went on to pursue a Masters of Business Administration from York University. Practicing medicine for 11 years at the Etobicoke Medical Centre and Women’s College Hospital in Toronto is what gave Helena the drive to couple her knowledge of medicine with her passion for public service. Serving as Medical Officer of Health and the Commissioner of Health Services for York Region for well over 18 years Dr. Jaczek’s accomplishments did not go unrecognized. She received the Distinguished Service Award from the Association of Local Public Health Agencies and honoured for her Medical Leadership in York Region by receiving an award “In Celebration of Women”. So she knows nothing about vehicle design and traffic safety. She sees things strictly from a public health perspective... and she is buying the BS that the insurance industry is spreading about ebikes. Born in England and came to Canada at age 12, Dr. Helena Jaczek was honoured to be elected to the Ontario Legislature in October 2007 as the Member of Provincial Parliament for Oak Ridges-Markham. Dr. Jaczek served as Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Health Promotion, and is at the present, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Environment. Her background in environmental planning will be beneficial to the Ministry of Environment as in 2005 Dr. Jaczek received an Award for Environmental Planning from the Canadian Institute of Planners. Currently, Dr. Jaczek sits on the Cabinet Subcomittee on Health, Economy and Social Policy. She was also a member of the Select Committee on Mental Health and Addictions and played an integral role in its report Navigating the Journey to Wellness: A Comprehensive Mental Health and Addictions Action Plan for Ontarians. She is also the Vice Chair of the Standing Committee on General Government. The Canadian Institute of Planners annual Awards for Planning Excellence honour planning projects judged on their excellence, innovation, impact on the profession, implementation potential, and overall presentation. All of these projects are deserving of recognition for their excellence in planning work, their contribution to the profession, and for showing particular strength in the category under which they won their award. 2006 Awards for Planning Excellence Recipients 2005 Report here: Focus on Our Enviroment, York Region's State of the Environment Report 2005 From that report: Taking Responsibility: What you can do: Ya can be the good Doctors frenemy on Facebook if ya like: http://www.facebook.c... ![]() Oh, look, ya can send her a message on Facebook... write on her wall... hmmmmm.... ![]() locK |
| Ben Jamin | |
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Perhaps it might be prudent to rephrase this -"Now's the time to start attacking this person folks..." - I mean, it could sound a bit extreme outside these cyber-walls, if younomesaaayin?
Good idea . . too bad we have to join Facebook to edumacate this insurance company pimp, eh? Thanks for the heads up cheers Edited by Ben Jamin on Dec 8, 2010 2:09 PM |
| lOCk | |
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Gotcha, so basically they are looking into ways they can license and regulate. That will go no where haha, awesome stuff. Ya have to see this as an opportunity... to appoint loyal party supporters... ![]() BTW, a recap of that daze debate: The Acting Speaker (Mr. Jim Wilson): Further debate? Approx. 100 minutes later: VEHICLE SAFETY ...and so the fun begins... Wait'll the TCU hears about this... ![]() LocK |
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Perhaps it might be prudent to rephrase this -"Now's the time to start attacking this person folks..." - I mean, it could sound a bit extreme outside these cyber-walls, if younomesaaayin? Hehe... BJ if ya don't know I like to kid around by now... Good idea . . too bad we have to join Facebook to edumacate this insurance company pimp, eh? No, ya can write her at hjaczek.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org Better really to send an actual letter on paper (off white, typed double space) to: 137 Main Street North,Suite 201 Markham , ON L3P 1Y2 ...but the truth is, it's probably out of her hands now. Must see how one gets appointed to select committees... and watt the honorariums are like. ![]() LocK |
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This is going to get interesting. The funniest part is that they will come to one of two conclusions mainly cus trying to license and maintain records on bikes and e-bikes would be ridiculous. Either they will continue along the way things are going or they will ban e-bike outright. If all e-bikes were scooter types their jobs would be easier but alas it's not that easy.
Like I say, nothing is going to happen, but I do hope they don't result in a ban. |
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...but the truth is, it's probably out of her hands now. Must see how one gets appointed to select committees... and watt the honorariums are like. Dang... I just figured out watt they're talking about... not a select committee of private citizens, but a committee of MPPs... ![]() ...and for this extra work the Committee Chair gets to add 14% to their annual salary, the committee vice-chair 8% Fun times! Lock Edited by lOCk on Dec 8, 2010 8:20 PM |
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This is going to get interesting. The funniest part is that they will come to one of two conclusions mainly cus trying to license and maintain records on bikes and e-bikes would be ridiculous. Watts legal and watts logical are often not the same thing... For example bike helmets, where in Ontario ebikers are required to wear helmets while pedal bike riders are not. There are no studies that show that ebikes are somehow more dangerous... Re licensing, hopefully they can take a lesson from history, here: City of Toronto - Bicycle Licensing History SOMEBUDDY is going to have to follow these proceedings and send submissions on behalf of ebikers. They'll be getting enough negative input from the folks that live in fear and ignorance... oh yeah, and from the insurance industry... Lock |