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Beer Bike, What's Your Burden?

Ben Jamin
Posted Dec 16, 2011 4:53 PM
Ben_Jamin
Toronto, ON
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Earlier today I stopped by the Beer Store on my way home. My bike does not have a huge amount of storage space, so I strapped 12 onto the vertical battery compartment under my seat.



What goods have you transported on your machine? I have carried a large wooden doll-house, full sized HD antennae in its box (approx 4'X3'X6”) and all kinds of groceries.

Anybody planning to cart a Hanukkah bush, Xmas or Bodhi tree? Care to share a pic of your beast in hauling mode?

U-haul cheers
Raymond Duchesne
Posted Dec 16, 2011 7:25 PM
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Guelph, ON
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I put a trailer on it to haul stuff. This is when I go fly my RC heli.


Ben Jamin
Posted Dec 17, 2011 2:17 AM
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Toronto, ON
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Very impressive, Raymond. What a good looking bike and trailer!
Our friend serpentza has managed to transport his shelter, food and kitchen on a machine even lighter than mine:





nobility of mobility ~ cheers





Tom
Posted Dec 17, 2011 8:53 AM
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Pickering, ON
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I put a trailer on it to haul stuff. This is when I go fly my RC heli.


I thought carrying a trailer behind an ebike was ILLEGAL....am I wrong?

hope so!

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Vic
Posted Dec 17, 2011 9:42 AM
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If you look at it from this point of views there's no reason they should be illegal. Motorcycles can carry a trailer. A normal bicycle can carry a trailer too. So there's no reason that it should be illegal on an ebike.

-Vic
Allan Harmsworth
Posted Dec 17, 2011 10:26 AM
orillia3
Orillia, ON
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The Ontario Highway Traffic Acti is mute on the subject of bicycle trailers. Traditionally bicycle trailers have been always allowed. You could also install a sidecar, although it would be technically more difficult than a trailer.

I am not sure why one would want them to be illegal.
Raymond Duchesne
Posted Dec 17, 2011 2:49 PM
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Thanks. I am not sure if they are illegal, I needed something to haul bigger items and I had this trailer I used to carry my son behind my bicycle when he was 2 to 4 years old. He's now seven and too big for the trailer so I use it for stuff. And stuff only. I saw someone with a trailer similar to mine behind their scooter with two small dogs in it. It was kinda cute but I thought it was dum as these trailers are rated for 12 MPH max or less depending on the model and make. I would probably stop anyone trying to haul their kids in a trailer like this behind a scooter. I always think that no one would do that but someone somewhere always proves me wrong.

serpentza's video was fun. I loved his funny comments and he sure set out to have a very nice picnic in the park. He could really use a trailer though, he could carry even more stuff.
Ben Jamin
Posted Dec 17, 2011 6:21 PM
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Toronto, ON
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but didn't we have a long discussion about hauling kids behind e-bikes last year? As Allan says, the code is mute on the subject, and only talks about keeping anyone under 16 off of the bike itself. So, unless a case goes to court (and what would the infraction be?), I think we are free to haul cats, kids, bags and wives.

And yes, brother serpentza seems to be leading the e-bike dolce vita, for sure, transporting tent, kitchen AND "Beer Girl"! Sign me up!

These guys are perhaps pigging out loading their bikes?


fully loaded cheers tongue
Raymond Duchesne
Posted Dec 17, 2011 7:45 PM
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Guelph, ON
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but didn't we have a long discussion about hauling kids behind e-bikes last year? As Allan says, the code is mute on the subject, and only talks about keeping anyone under 16 off of the bike itself. So, unless a case goes to court (and what would the infraction be?), I think we are free to haul cars, kids, bags and wives.

Since I joined in November of this year, I wouldn't know about the conversation about trailers so I looked it up and read it. Even if the law says it's ok, or should I say it doesn't say anything, I'm just not comfortable hauling people in that trailer behind a scooter. When I used it behind my bicycle when my son was little, it was just to go around the neighborhood on the sidewalks. I wouldn't even ride on the street when I knew he was behind me. I was to scared of being rear ended by a car. I drive a city bus for a living, I see how people drive all day long. They scare me smile I guess I follow my own rules on this one.
Allan Harmsworth
Posted Dec 17, 2011 8:48 PM
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Orillia, ON
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I agree on the roads, they are not built for bicycles. Each road should have at least 3 feet of lane built and marked for alternative traffic on All gravel shoulders should be paved. No more just building roads for automobiles only. Build it and they will come. As it stands now bicycle infrastructure in North America is an afterthought at best, it should be included in urban planning.

If there is no law on the subject, then it is not against the law.

The danger in kiddie trailers is not the hauling of the children themselves, but the possibility of a collision with an automobile or truck. The latest fatality of that woman in Toronto could have been worse if she was on her return journey home as the bicycle was pulling a kiddie trailer she was going the pick her son up in. The truck when turning swept her and the trailer under the rear wheels, and the kid would have been squashed too.

I often wish I had the time to fiddle with trailers. I would like to make a sidecar, and a BOB style trailer or a single wheel trailer with the cargo box pannier style over the single trailer wheel. Alas the plans remain in my head. The easiest and most readily available seems to be repurposing kiddie trailers.

I find it difficult to believe kiddie trailers are only rated at 12 kph. An old grannie on a beach cruiser can go 12 kph, and a fit cyclist can top 40 kph and more.

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