I read everything up and down. Including laws for other provinces. Ontario as far as I can tell at the moment in the only one with a weight restriction. But like Lock said it's not any official act. Seems silly to limit weight to be honest. I think they just put that in there to please a certain "cycling union" the was complaining. You know the one that said we're too heavy and too fast while blasting past us 40KM+ on the sidewalk....

-Vic

Seems silly to limit weight to be honest.

It IS silly, and the MTO has a long track record of silliness. They make stuff up as they go along. Do ya think they have a study to back up the requirement that ebike riders must use helmets but pedal bike riders (adults) do not???

Do ya think they have any studies that show 500W is the "right" number? Or is it just a nice ROUND number? The nice round number they should have chosen is ONE as in ONE HORSEPOWER.

I also think any power restriction is silly, but I am all for SPEED restrictions. And I want to see ALL vehicles built with speed limiters built in. If I were King of Canada cars and trucks would automatically have their top speeds reduced as they enter city limits.

Yet transportation "experts" at the Federal and Provincial level see nothing wrong with private cars that have HUNDREDS of horsepower "on tap" and are designed for top speeds waaaaay over the fastest speed limits...

(RANT OFF)

Had to chuckle the other day at the pedal bike folks admiring cargo bike designs and I pointed out they would never be accepted in the bike lanes `cause they are too heavy. And the pedal bike folks say no they're not! And I say but this is one of the arguments against electric bikes? Kinda shut down that conversation (GRIN)

LoCk

a chap in Toronto who was a Stake Holder at the MOT Hearings for the Pilot Project said several of the Guidelines got muddled up because the MOT was trying to shutout Electric "Pocket Bikes" which were starting to show up and kids were getting mangled on them. Also the whole thing about E-Scooters being called E-Bikes was confusing because it never came up at the Hearings and the re-write should clarify what the MOT meant to write but didn't.

The 350mm X 35mm wheel minimum was aimed at Pocket Bikes and not e-bikes or e-scooters.

He was told a re-write is coming likely in the Fall because some of the guidelines don't make any sense even to the MOT.

Hello LoCK
I totally agree .
I think if we looked at the car and made it more like the E- bike ( Scooter )
I think they should build cars that follow the same attributes as the e-bike (scooter ), clean, green, does not go vary fast, does not kill no one, and maybe limited at the 20 miles an hour .
With the technology that we have today there is no reason why we could not build safety right in the vehicle . Fix it so that at the beginning, if you cant drive that car absolutely smashed then go back to the drawing board and build one or slow it down to 19 miles an hour or 18 miles an hour or.......until
the speed and technology meet .
Then go high speed with rail .
No more deaths ,no more injury ,no more pollution ,no more fines and vehicle criminalization ,no more cancer filled hospitals due to pollution .
We had all this technology before we put man on the moon , I don’t see the problem .
All we need is to be out of the elements , a warm bum and a clear view .
Once we slow everything down every thing gets easier and easier to accomplish .
This could also be copied on our waterways .
It`s the proper power we need not the speed .
Mankind has such a love affair with their cars that we are even willing to kill
the planet and ourselves so that we can have these high speed toys .
I keep thinking of the bumper car that we would see at a carnival that
the idea is to deliberately smash your car into another car.
There is no death ,no ambulance ,no criminalization ,no pollution
everyone is laughing instead of crying .
Anyway with that said I pronounce you KING LOCK of CANADA .
Denis

well i know what you mean but how will the GOV make money it is just like that thay need fines etc thats why thay are trying to tax CO2 the thing that ALL living this make and man made CO2 is very small to what the sea and the earth makes with out us at all just saying look at this http://topdocumentary...

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Anyway with that said I pronounce you KING LOCK of CANADA .
Denis

Ha Ha! You are too kind Sir!

...and Wayne... don't think of the little EVs as good for "global climate change"/wattever... Think of them in terms of the pollution you can see coming out of tailpipes into our air or dripping onto the pavements and into our drinking water... The energy waste of traveling at high speeds in a vehicle designed to travel 3/4 empty most of the time (driver plus three empty seats.) The cost to the economy from congested city streets, the cost in lives and injuries from all those amateurs operating heavy machinery where most of `em are crippled by things like lack of sleep, drugs and medications and alcohol, yell phones, testostorone... EVerybuddy that gets out of four wheels and on to two wheels helps make our streets a little safer for EVerybuddy else and our city a little more civilized...

lL0k

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